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KasRock - Getting ready for my first run..

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 1:46 pm
by kasrock
Hey everyone!
I have to admit it took me some days to digest all the info from BP 2.0 but today I finally got my kre-anabolyn and the rest of supplements so I think i will be starting my first run on moday.

I am 28 years old, I have been working out for a couple of years now but I started really serious about 4 months ago with also a very healthy diet.
I am 5'10 (180cm) and weight 174lbs, with an average of 10% bodyfat.

I just want to shoot some questions to have everything clear for my start:

1) I haven't done squats nor deadlifts for a previous back injures, my back is ok now, but i dont know how strong it is... so should I try to make them anyway now, or shall I do replacement exercises?

2) Which should be the frequency to do the 5 first workouts in feast phase?

3) The formula is only for training days, and during rest days is only protein and kre-anabolyn?

For now that would be all :-)

Thanks!!

Re: KasRock - Getting ready for my first run..

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 2:00 pm
by Big.jazayrli
kasrock wrote: 1) I haven't done squats nor deadlifts for a previous back injures, my back is ok now, but i dont know how strong it is... so should I try to make them anyway now, or shall I do replacement exercises?

2) Which should be the frequency to do the 5 first workouts in feast phase?

3) The formula is only for training days, and during rest days is only protein and kre-anabolyn?
1) I would start out light on your first run through and determine how high you can work without pain. If it doesn't hurt, keep going!

2) Try to listen to your body in terms of what you can handle. I personally can do 1on/1off but my training capacity is higher than most

3) correct!

Re: KasRock - Getting ready for my first run..

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 3:06 pm
by kasrock
Big.jazayrli wrote:
1) I would start out light on your first run through and determine how high you can work without pain. If it doesn't hurt, keep going!

2) Try to listen to your body in terms of what you can handle. I personally can do 1on/1off but my training capacity is higher than most

3) correct!
Thanks Big.jazayrli!

Wish me good luck with my back, I am quite excited about starting and I don't want to go too easy on it neither, but I will try to be carefull though.

... I dont have a spooter neither any tips on how i will manage some of the absolut failure routines?

Re: KasRock - Getting ready for my first run..

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:48 pm
by matter2003
kasrock wrote:Hey everyone!

1) I haven't done squats nor deadlifts for a previous back injures, my back is ok now, but i dont know how strong it is... so should I try to make them anyway now, or shall I do replacement exercises?
I don't mess with barbell squats either...I use the V-Squat Hammer strength machine...I also LOVE using that for standing calf raises too...gets your calves diesel!!

Re: KasRock - Getting ready for my first run..

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 10:33 pm
by Linkiroth
kasrock wrote:
Big.jazayrli wrote:
1) I would start out light on your first run through and determine how high you can work without pain. If it doesn't hurt, keep going!

2) Try to listen to your body in terms of what you can handle. I personally can do 1on/1off but my training capacity is higher than most

3) correct!
Thanks Big.jazayrli!

Wish me good luck with my back, I am quite excited about starting and I don't want to go too easy on it neither, but I will try to be carefull though.

... I dont have a spooter neither any tips on how i will manage some of the absolut failure routines?
1) Ask someone to spot. This works 95% of the time. (The other 5% of the time, everyone is either too busy, too much of a dick, or as happened to me last week: you are the ONLY one in the gym)

2) Lift in a power rack. This works 100% of the time.

Re: KasRock - Getting ready for my first run..

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 4:10 am
by kasrock
matter2003 wrote:
I don't mess with barbell squats either...I use the V-Squat Hammer strength machine...I also LOVE using that for standing calf raises too...gets your calves diesel!!
Humm... That one look like a nice machine, but they don't have it at my gym :cry:
Linkiroth wrote:
1) Ask someone to spot. This works 95% of the time. (The other 5% of the time, everyone is either too busy, too much of a dick, or as happened to me last week: you are the ONLY one in the gym)

2) Lift in a power rack. This works 100% of the time.
Yeah! that's the thing, I 'm usually the first one in the gym, since I go to work at 8am...

How different would it be to do the bench presses with dumbells instead of barbell?

Re: KasRock - Getting ready for my first run..

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 4:28 pm
by kasrock
kasrock wrote:
How different would it be to do the bench presses with dumbells instead of barbell?
No one???

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:35 am
by bigpelo
My 2 cents:

Dumbbells Pros: Dumbbells are great to work smaller stabilizers muscle.

Dumbbells Cons: can gets difficult to get in position with super heavy dumbbells

Barbell Pros: you usually can push more weight

Barbell Cons: You need a spotter

My way of doing it: barbell for static hold and loading pattern (alpha strength) , dumbbells for EDT block (beta strength)

Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 11:41 am
by kasrock
Thank you so much bigpelo!

That was what I needed it to know! :D

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 3:00 pm
by kasrock
Just and update...
I had planned to start tomorrow but because of work I had to rush and start today cause I didnt want to wait til thursday, anyway... I did it without thinking about the diet, and by the time I started I had already eaten 60gr of protein, but I did the workout very well, I feel extremly tired, and hungry so I guess that is a good indicator...

It went well with the squats, altough I did them in the smith machine, but it felt great, no pain in my back and full feeling in my legs... :wink:

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 8:09 am
by matter2003
kasrock wrote: It went well with the squats, altough I did them in the smith machine, but it felt great, no pain in my back and full feeling in my legs... :wink:
I would highly recommend to NEVER do squats in a smith machine as it is a very unnatural motion because you are locked into a straight line...very bad for squats in particular...good way to permanently jack your back up in a bad way...

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 8:13 am
by bigpelo
matter2003 wrote:
kasrock wrote: It went well with the squats, altough I did them in the smith machine, but it felt great, no pain in my back and full feeling in my legs... :wink:
I would highly recommend to NEVER do squats in a smith machine as it is a very unnatural motion because you are locked into a straight line...very bad for squats in particular...good way to permanently jack your back up in a bad way...
Completely agree with mater2003 on this one! I hurt both my knees in my early lifting era doing squat in a smith machine with shims under heels...

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 8:20 am
by RobRegish
bigpelo wrote:
matter2003 wrote:
kasrock wrote: It went well with the squats, altough I did them in the smith machine, but it felt great, no pain in my back and full feeling in my legs... :wink:
I would highly recommend to NEVER do squats in a smith machine as it is a very unnatural motion because you are locked into a straight line...very bad for squats in particular...good way to permanently jack your back up in a bad way...
Completely agree with mater2003 on this one! I hurt both my knees in my early lifting era doing squat in a smith machine with shims under heels...
Right here.. big.pelo, pulling a "Rob" - again!!

Thanks so much man, you have no idea how much this helps me/us.. :) :) :)

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:43 am
by kasrock
Wow thanks for the tip on the smith machine! I thought I was safer there... :?
Today I did my second famine workout... first thing in the morning... Not good... I did not manage to complete almost any set... my repetitions wouldn't go further than 6-7... I have no energy! and days are so incredible long when you can sleep only 6 hours!
I feel terrible for not being able to do the workout the way I was suppose to... I also have muscle soreness from the first workout :cry:
.. I cant wait to be done with my famine... it's been harder than I thought...

By the way are all the workouts in the BP so short? around 35min, or is it only in famine?