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Tuna

Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:35 pm
by betweentwoferns
Did not want to keep cluttering your inbox mixel, but you wrote "Canned/Packaged Tuna
Ok, this isn't a supplement per se but I see a lot of guys and gals getting the
majority of their protein these days from tuna given the recent milk/whey prices
skyrocketing. This advice goes for all fish: Fish is pretty good at building other
fish. It's pretty damn poor at building people as a mainstay, truth be told."

Can you offer me support/reasons why you said this? I eat tuna almost daily.

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:43 am
by Big.jazayrli
I think he's simply using overstatement to say that your main source of protein shouldn't be fish

50g/day is fine

but don't consume 300g/protein worth of tuna per day and nothing else

whey, casein, etc all serve their purpose in a proper diet

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:48 am
by RobRegish
There you go Big/Jaz. Spot on, as always :)

When I wrote 2.0, whey prices were SKYROCKETING. I saw LOTS of people getting the majority of their protein from Tuna as it was the cheapest protein at the supermarket.

While it's acceptable in small amounts... it's a POOR substitute for other animal proteins. As I stated in the BP.... fish's amino acid profile is pretty good at building other fish. Not so with building humans.

Nothing wrong with getting the amount you're proposing, just don't over-do it!

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:30 pm
by the_buffer
I don't know if this is true or not, but I read somewhere that one can every other day is the absolute maximum anyone should have because of the possibility of Mercury poisoning.

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:08 pm
by askmass
Rob and I differ on this and have had knock-down-drag-out fights many times over this very topic.

:)

No, not really, but I do think the right kind of fish 2-3 times a week is a smart thing to do for health AND fitness.

If you can get canned or pouch Alaskan Wild Salmon for a reasonable price vs. tuna, then that is my suggestion because Buffer's point is valid.

My mom made salmon patties from the canned stuff once a week, and the whole family is better off for it.

I usually have 1-2 tilapia fillets a week, typically from frozen. It's a clean healthy fish and not overpriced. Sushi once a week for lunch when the price is right, but I'd love it twice.

That is powerful protein.

We keep the salmon pouches around, and it is an easy go-to.

But, is fish the best muscle builder?

Heck no!

Not by a long shot, but it is not worthless in the regard, either.

I know of very old men who are strong and swear by a canned sardine lunch.

Your mileage may vary.

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:32 am
by askmass
I wanted to tack on another old school mainstay for easy and transportable protein- hard boiled eggs.

You can boil up to a dozen at a time to use over several days and it remains a quick go-to for me to this day for use with salads/pasta and as a pop it and hit the road snack when needed.

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:35 pm
by RobRegish
AskMass has the right idea. So long as it's not your primary protein source and you're getting the HIGH END stuff.... good stuff.

The benefits of Omega 3's/6's etc can't be stressed enough. I probably eat too little fish... guilty as charged. Then again, not a lot of great fish houses where I am...

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:09 am
by betweentwoferns
thanks for the quick helpful responses! Will be starting the blueprint for my first run soon after my season ends. Will make a log, first run will be without an adaptogen

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:16 am
by RobRegish
There you go. Will be a nice, objective comparison for when you DO add one. THEN you'll see the difference they make :)