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Hello there,

So I've been going back and forth on what supps to stack and I think I'm gonna go with the Blueprint MASS stack instead of the Thermolife stack. Just need to save up a little money

Is a pre-workout NO drink okay to take with these stacks through the blueprint program? I currently use White Flood but have been wanting to try 1MR.

Thanks for the help

yes its fine

steer clear of 1MR though.. 300mg of caffeine + 1,3 DMAA in every scoop

too many stims will wear out your CNS and ruin your workouts.

A lot of people have recommended 1MR to me. If I'm just taking 1MR and the Blueprint MASS stack, what other stims should I be cautious about? Wouldn't 1MR be the only stim there?

Maybe PreSurged Unleashed would be a better alternative? Jack3d? I'm currently using White Flood but want to try something different.

You can do this but again, easy on the stims. Some cause vasoconstriction, negating the NO effect...

RobRegish wrote:You can do this but again, easy on the stims. Some cause vasoconstriction, negating the NO effect...

Caffeine does this in general though

does anyone else here use a pre workout NO? What works well for you guys?

Not everyone knows it, but Nitro AKG was actually in development before NO2 and in the research papers caffeine was clearly defined as a no-no.

The arginine akg structure needs to stand alone to do it's work. No competing proteins, no caffeine, no other amino's or herbs, or flavorings. No nothing outside of the pH adjustment and time release medium.

We've never dreamed of touching the original Nitro AKG formula because of this and all the "everything but the kitchen sink" NO styled products have always caused me to smirk a little, to be honest.

They do not follow the research, or else do not have access to it or lack an understanding of it.

My 2 cents on NO.

askmass wrote:Not everyone knows it, but Nitro AKG was actually in development before NO2 and in the research papers caffeine was clearly defined as a no-no.

The arginine akg structure needs to stand alone to do it's work. No competing proteins, no caffeine, no other amino's or herbs, or flavorings. No nothing outside of the pH adjustment and time release medium.

We've never dreamed of touching the original Nitro AKG formula because of this and all the "everything but the kitchen sink" NO styled products have always caused me to smirk a little, to be honest.

They do not follow the research, or else do not have access to it or lack an understanding of it.

My 2 cents on NO.

How do you dose your Nitro AKG?

RyKnocks wrote:does anyone else here use a pre workout NO? What works well for you guys?

i use Force Factor and i last all day in the gym

DaCookie wrote:

askmass wrote:Not everyone knows it, but Nitro AKG was actually in development before NO2 and in the research papers caffeine was clearly defined as a no-no.

The arginine akg structure needs to stand alone to do it's work. No competing proteins, no caffeine, no other amino's or herbs, or flavorings. No nothing outside of the pH adjustment and time release medium.

We've never dreamed of touching the original Nitro AKG formula because of this and all the "everything but the kitchen sink" NO styled products have always caused me to smirk a little, to be honest.

They do not follow the research, or else do not have access to it or lack an understanding of it.

My 2 cents on NO.

How do you dose your Nitro AKG?

Bump

AskMass could tell you more. Been awhile since I've used it but if memory serves, pre-workout 3 caps led to some nice increases in total tonnage over the same time period without.

To say nothing of the increased bloodflow. I say that vs. pumps as I feel that's where the real value lies...

2-4 prior to training is fairly standard as a pre-workout guideline for Nitro AKG.

Same for those using it for, ahem, other "physical activity enhancement".

For general bodybuilding benefits, spread out a daily dosage based on the bodyweight guidelines on the bottle. In this most common style of use, the key benefits of the timed release are really seen.

Me, I actually chew two and take two additional whole to get a fast burst of NO up front and then a staggered release ongoing, used this way before a long 3 hour bike training ride.

Here's a Q&A Forum entry from the newsletter that ties to our discussion-


- Q&A Forum Files:
>A-AKG supplements exposed

Q: "Have you seen the powder that contains arginine alpha-ketoglutarate
like your Nitro AKG and NO2, but also has creatine and stimulants mixed in?
I thought using creatine with stims and A-AKG was a bad idea?"

A: First, be aware that simple powder versions (and most tablets) of A-AKG
are a hoodwink, with or without creatine. A plain mix is NOT the legitimate,
bonded A-AKG compound found in Nitro AKG.

Further, these items don't incorporate Patented pH and Sustained Release
Delivery. Look, anyone can mix plain L-Arginine and Alpha-Ketoglutarate
powder together and - technically - call it "A-AKG".

If only it were so easy as that to produce the real compound and get
the great Nitro AKG results.

However, after saturating Nitro AKG (or the other, overpriced but legit
A-AKG you mentioned) it is perfectly fine and good to add Kre-Alkalyn
or Kre-Anabolyn to your stack. You'll love the synergistic effects.

Click for more tips and insight on real A-AKG and how to maximize your
results- https://bodybuildingsupplements.com/arginine-alph ... arate.html

askmass wrote:2-4 prior to training is fairly standard as a pre-workout guideline for Nitro AKG.

Same for those using it for, ahem, other "physical activity enhancement".

For general bodybuilding benefits, spread out a daily dosage based on the bodyweight guidelines on the bottle. In this most common style of use, the key benefits of the timed release are really seen.

Me, I actually chew two and take two additional whole to get a fast burst of NO up front and then a staggered release ongoing, used this way before a long 3 hour bike training ride.

Here's a Q&A Forum entry from the newsletter that ties to our discussion-


- Q&A Forum Files:
>A-AKG supplements exposed

Q: "Have you seen the powder that contains arginine alpha-ketoglutarate
like your Nitro AKG and NO2, but also has creatine and stimulants mixed in?
I thought using creatine with stims and A-AKG was a bad idea?"

A: First, be aware that simple powder versions (and most tablets) of A-AKG
are a hoodwink, with or without creatine. A plain mix is NOT the legitimate,
bonded A-AKG compound found in Nitro AKG.

Further, these items don't incorporate Patented pH and Sustained Release
Delivery. Look, anyone can mix plain L-Arginine and Alpha-Ketoglutarate
powder together and - technically - call it "A-AKG".

If only it were so easy as that to produce the real compound and get
the great Nitro AKG results.

However, after saturating Nitro AKG (or the other, overpriced but legit
A-AKG you mentioned) it is perfectly fine and good to add Kre-Alkalyn
or Kre-Anabolyn to your stack. You'll love the synergistic effects.

Click for more tips and insight on real A-AKG and how to maximize your
results- https://bodybuildingsupplements.com/arginine-alph ... arate.html

Im 160lbs 7-8% bf, it says up to 6, so what you think of 4 pre workout and 2 in the morning or should I spread it out more?