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As I have spoke with John at MASS, I puchased 3 bottles of the Kre Anabolyn and 3 Adaptogen N, My first Blueprint I used the Ebol,tbol trib and cbol creatine stack. I was happy with the results and my size did increase as with all lifts. I was very hesistant to try a different company that did not have many reviews, nor did it have all the flash behind all the advertising.
I took a chance and purchased the Kre Anabolyn and Adaptogen N.
Here is what I think of the two stacks.
cbol creatine creatine seems to really work very well for me, but it may have been some bloating.
Kre Alkayn in Kre Anabolyn not as much, but it seems a more dryer, no bloating effect.

tbol trib had almost Viagra effects on me, I was very happy about this, no stomach issues either. Felt very positive throughout the day.
Adaptogen N has milder Viagra effects on me, no stoamch issues either, I sleep better with the Adaptogen N and deeper=Big Plus

Ebol was my fist Ecdy supplment and I noticed I recoverd quicker from my workouts and had more energy.
Kre Anabolyn is AMAZING at how fast you recover from your workouts, there is practically no DOMS Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness. You will be tired the next morning. Your muscles will still be pumped but the soreness is practically gone. You have to be careful that you do not overtrain on this supplement. I am very, very happy with this product!!!!!!

I have given a bottle of each to a trainer friend of mine, and I am letting him try it, to see if it has the same potential on him.

Just my 2 cents!!!

Just to summarize what I said above the Kre Anabolyn lets you train more intensely and recover faster and better in my opinion. This means you can attain more size and strength faster with Kre Anabolyn.

great thread man. I think this might be the first comparison on here. I plan to compare also. I am currently on my second cycle of E/c/t bol stack. Impressive results so far. I dont know how the mass products could significantly beat these results but I am certainly going to find out for myself.

I notice the DOMS effect very significantly with the E-bol right now. I have to push myself REALLY hard to get sore the next day.

Argh this makes the wait so much more painful.I am a previous user of E/cbol creatine and just made the dive for a lot of MASS products.I had good results with E/cbol creatine and infact have 2 almost full bottles of E-bol, 2 bottle of T bol and one half full bottle of cbol creatine.

Nice review man, cant wait now.

I promise you this, after being off of KA for a week now, I am frikken sore from my leg workout yesterday..never got this sore while on KA

My only hesitation is the price of the KA and Adaptogen N.

I got the Thermolife stack for 99 dollars for a 25 day supply. It is going to be tough to convince myself into spending almost double that. Is it likely I will gain double the effects? I cant imagine that to be the case.

you get a discount on KA because you bought the BP 10%.

Plus Mass has stacks at discounted pricing

2 Bottles KA 47.95 = 95.90 less 10% = 86.31

1 Bottle Adaptagen N = 57.95
$145 but you get this..thats saying somthing

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Nice write up.. Out of curiosity, what was your dosage like on KA?

The head to head comparison is interesting. I've been so happy with KA I just never used anything else.

Two different formulas, obviously. Very different approaches and each delivers quantifiable benefits. I've got the generation 5 KA in hand and can't WAIT to run it.

I do think its formula is unique insofar as peri-workout. With the 4-HISO and such, the focus on glucose disposal I feel...is the key.

Add yes, not much flash to the MASS products. OK by me. It's what's in the bottle that's important and.... results. I think that's the motto?

Whichever product you're using, insert it into The Blueprint and well.... you get what you're seeing here. PH like gains... without the PH's!

Sweet.

nice review man im starting myfirst run shortly with ebol/tbol trib/cbol creatine and will def try adptogen n and KA my 2nd run to compare

I am curious to try the BP without using the test booster. I have read that its smart to use a test booster with adaptogens, i forget where though. Maybe the Thermolife forums? Anyways, I am quite accustomed to the alpha male thoughts, and aggression in the gym, I might not like working out without it anymore. Whatever the case is, I will be taking a break from all supplements save protein when I go on vacation, and the following 1 or 2 weeks to let my body settle down. Then it will be time for BP run #2. Depending on how I complete this cycle with my BF%, I might either stack on sups for a growth or even cut down one more time.

You likely read something I posted about DNA transcription (via the test booster) + mRNA translation via Ecdy.

Relative to the 2 mechanisms:

There is true 1+1 = 3 work going on here, meaning DNA transcription and mRNA translation will be maximized by AN and KA respectively.

Briefly, Adaptogen N/test booster of choice will result in higher test/free test resulting in more bioavailable testosterone. Free to bind with the receptor, it does so and impart DNA transcription or the message to the cell nucleus to "turn on" cellular protein machinery.

Kre-Anabolyn/Ecdy via RCE works the other side of the protein synthesis coin, namely mRNA translation via accelerated ribsomal protein assembly.

This is secondary to muscle growth being put into motion via progressive overload and adequate amino acids being in circulation to ensure the ribosomes have adequate substrate to build new contractile muscle proteins with.

As you now know, we have unique ways of amplifying this state and other variables The Blueprint uses to leverage.