Anyone have any experience/thoughts on 17 Hydroxy Mesterone?

matter2003 · Post by **matter2003** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:40 am

Just came across this last night while reading some things and it seems like something that could be on interest. Most of the people reviewing this loved it, and it also seemed to have a very low incidence of side effects, the most common being nausea.

From what I have read about this, it has properties similar to that of a pro hormone, without the side effects and without having to use PCT once you come off of it.

It is produced by modifying yucca extract(smilax) by stripping its sugars off of it, which produces a compound almost identical to that of testosterone, but with a much lower rate of possible conversion in estrogen(due to the sugars being stripped off). It binds with the hormone receptor the same way as testosterone would and has the same effects from what I am reading.

Here is one article regarding it:

IDS 17 Hydroxy-Mesterone is a raw material hydrolyzed from the "genus" smilax, which you may be familiar with because it's been marketed in the United States as a natural anabolic for over 20 years! Anabolic components of the smilax plant called Dioscins are hydrolyzed (Hydrolyzation is the rearranging of carbon and oxygen molecules in the compound structure) to produce diosgenins. Diosgenins are the actual steroid like components of smilax that have been used for years as a raw material "starting point" for pharmaceutical companies making anabolic steroids.

Historically synthetic testosterone was created from the yam plant after discovering the hormonal structure of the yam plant was virtually identical to human testosterone. However, conclusive scientific data shows that the natural steroid Diosgenins of smilax attach to androgen receptors over 300% more efficiently than the yam, meaning more androgen receptors are occupied, thus allowing for much faster protein turnover. In addition to Hydroxylation, 17 Hydroxy-Mesterone has had two sugar molecules cleaved off to greatly reduce the production of Aromatase, which is the enzyme that converts testosterone into estrogen. If estrogen levels increase, hard lines disappear leaving a swollen bloated physique. As a result, 17 Hydroxy-Mesterone not only gets you extremely big... it also gets you extremely shredded as well!

Research indicates that there is a larger increase in Serum levels of free testosterone in the test group utilizing the 17 hydroxy along with those in the comparative group that was administered 7 mg per day of Dianabol. This compared to 6.51 times the increase in serum testosterone while using placebo.

This was concurrent with an decrease in percent of body fat up to 2% reduction in the experimental group. Increases in Lean muscle mass up to 11 pounds. The study was a placebo controlled double blind double cross study.

Thoughts on if anyone has tried this at all? Sounds pretty interesting...

bigpelo · Post by **bigpelo** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:48 am

I don't believe it's available anymore. Seems to be pretty close to actual pro-hormones...

matter2003 · Post by **matter2003** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:57 am

bigpelo wrote:I don't believe it's available anymore. Seems to be pretty close to actual pro-hormones...

Hmm...wonder what the story behind that is...semms like something like that having few sides and no need for pct would be something popular especially if it worked as well as ppl said...unless of course they put ph's in there...