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So being in Sweden it is a bit of a bugger to get hold of KA or E-bol so I have been browsing around the internetz and have found two products Animal M-Stak - which someone on this forum reported to not be so nice - and a product labeled Pro Ecdysterone by a (swedish) company called Top Formula.

They don't provide too much information on it but it basically says that each tablet contains 250mg of Ecdysterone and 162 of those are 20-beta-hydroxyecdysterone.

Is it worth a try for my next BP run or is it just garbage? Mostly worried that swedish customs will not let KA or E-bol pass through the gates of Sweden here.

I checked it out for you Marcus, please don't waste your money on this. Here's why...

*Product purports to be standardized to 90% 20-Hydroxyecdysterone. Even if this is true and even IF it's from the correct source genus (Rhaponticum Carthamoides Extract), 20-H is worthless orally.

*Company then makes the following ridiculous claims, "Through extensive research and testing it has been found that increased nitrogen retention, through the use of NutriTech Ecdysterone, together with resistance training will stimulate muscle growth and burn fat up to 20 times more effectively than without ecdysterone supplementation..."

Is that so?

For a good laugh, email these fine folks, and ask them for 1.) the source genus for their product and 2.) the research/scientific reference backing up this claim.

Prepare yourself a small library, for all of the supporting documentation they DON'T send you...

This product is a scam. I may be biased, but Synthagen, Kre-Anabolyn or Adaptogen N (by virtue of its custom Suma extract) will do you a LOT better. For that matter, so will Ebol or another quality RCE based formula.

I'm sorry if that comes across a bit angry. I get angry though, when I see companies trying to take advantage/lying to good people. My guess is they source their 20-H via a cheap cyanotis vaga extract from China.

They likely have $6, perhaps $7 in that product - including the shiny label. And oh, it works best when you take loads of their whey protein with it. Right...

Rubbish!

Hope that helps...