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ATD and natty T-booster dosing help
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:15 pm
by tufluk
Hi all,
Just wondering how to does ATD (SNS inhibit-E) with bioforge V3 and DAA (formula x).
At first I was going to does ATD at 50mg first week and 25mg for the last 3 but I have read that as well as being an anti-estrogen, ATD is also an anti-androgen to some degree. As a result I don't want that to effect bioforges benefits.
I am only taking ATD as an aromatase inhibitor for DAA, so what to you guys think in terms or dosing? shall i run DAA and ATD totally separately to bioforge?
thanks to any and all help
Re: ATD and natty T-booster dosing help
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:32 pm
by RobRegish
tufluk wrote:Hi all,
Just wondering how to does ATD (SNS inhibit-E) with bioforge V3 and DAA (formula x).
At first I was going to does ATD at 50mg first week and 25mg for the last 3 but I have read that as well as being an anti-estrogen, ATD is also an anti-androgen to some degree. As a result I don't want that to effect bioforges benefits.
I am only taking ATD as an aromatase inhibitor for DAA, so what to you guys think in terms or dosing? shall i run DAA and ATD totally separately to bioforge?
thanks to any and all help
Careful on the ATD man. It's a STRONG AI, and will crush your libido (and quite possibly, HDL levels) as they're dependent on some level of estrogen. Joint pain is another to look out for/pain or tendon "awareness" is another. You'll know what I'm talking about, when you feel it.
I rather doubt DAA or any natural Tbooster is going to boost test to levels where aromatization is a concern. Honestly, ATD alone will boost test/free test OR, I'd opt for BF/DAA alone.
My $0.02..
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:28 am
by tufluk
thanks rob,
Ill do that. just for the record tho, what do you think of 1 on 1 off low dose ATD?
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:58 am
by RobRegish
tufluk wrote:thanks rob,
Ill do that. just for the record tho, what do you think of 1 on 1 off low dose ATD?
Much smarter plan...
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:22 pm
by matter2003
I prefer DIM(Diindolylmethane). It also converts estrogen into its "good" form, which has a higher affinity to SHBG than testosterone, so it leaves more free T circulating as well. Technically it doesn't inhibit the conversion, it speeds up the rate at which estrogen is metabolized by the liver.
Mangosteen is also an exceptionally strong anti-estrogen(like off the charts strong) and its also dirt cheap.
However, keep in kind you need some estrogen. The body is brilliantly designed and has checks and balances for everything. Everytime Testosterone locks into its receptor it causes slight damage to the receptor. Guess what this damage is repaired by? Yup, you guessed it...estrogen. Without estrogen to repair it the receptor becomes less and less able to get the full amount of testosterone and less testosterone is taken up. The body tries to subvert all efforts to get it out of its comfort zone. Utterly amazing how things work inside us.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:10 pm
by tufluk
appreciate the info matter.
I didn't know about the receptor damage and how estrogen repairs it.