TMG + CLA highly anabolic synergystic effect?
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 10:40 pm
Since I have a huge bottle of TMG sitting around that I am not using because I don't need GPA due to taking KA, I came across a few studies from my favorite site...ergo-log
The first talked about how TMG helped subjects do more squats in trials:
Taking 2.5g of TMG daily helped subjects to do more squats, and the longer they took the TMG, the more extra reps it helped them do(at least for the 2 weeks the study lasted). Participants were doing 75% of their 1RM, and by the 2nd week they averaged 14 reps without TMG and 21 reps with TMG...
For some reason they didn't understand, TMG had no effect when measuring bench press reps. Theorized it might be because legs are bigger muscles that store more TMG...
Also noted that pigs given TMG in their feed gain more muscle and lose fat...
Second Study which was even more interesting was that CLA + TMG taken in combination showed a highly anabolic effect on Iberian pigs, a type of pig that easily gains fat in their muscles, which they thought would be an excellent model for obese people...
Neither TMG nor CLA by itself showed much statistically, but when they were taken in combination the results were pretty drastic...
CLA appears to show its most benefits when partnered with something else, drastically increasing the effects much more than taking either CLA or its partnering item by itself. Studies have indicated that CLA + Guarana obliterates not only fat, but also destroys fat cells completely, which researchers had thought was impossible. Neither CLA nor Guarana by itself showed a strong effect, but together they showed a huge effect...
The study started with the pigs weighing 30 kg and ended when they hit 50 kg. They were then slaughtered and body composition was checked.
Study numbers are in grams/day and the results were pretty shocking to me:
Animals fed CLA+TMG gained an average of 58.7 g/day muscle and 215 g/day of water resulting in a total of 274 g/day of lean body mass compared to 238 g/day with TMG, 236 g/day with CLA and 222 g/day with nothing. The pigs receiving this mixture also put on the least fat(138 g/day) of any of the groups, with the pigs taking nothing putting on 155 g/day of fat.
So to put in perspective, the pigs taking CLA+TMG gained the most weight per day(424 g/day), the most muscle per day, the least fat per day and by far the most lean bodymass per day.
Sounds like this is a combination worth looking into since I have a whole bottle of TMG and a whole bottle of CLA sitting on my shelves collecting dust right now...
Dosage was 1% CLA and 0.5% TMG
**Added Bonus, TMG converts to SAM-e in the body, which is an activated form of methionine and helps assist in the breakdown of estrogen and also helps with joint pain!!
Rob, what do you think about this---something worth trying out, and if so, what would be the optimal dosage?
Dinoii, a bodybuilding MD from LeanBulk Forums is a huge believer in CLA taken in high dosages...12-14 g per day for 200+ lbs
The first talked about how TMG helped subjects do more squats in trials:
Taking 2.5g of TMG daily helped subjects to do more squats, and the longer they took the TMG, the more extra reps it helped them do(at least for the 2 weeks the study lasted). Participants were doing 75% of their 1RM, and by the 2nd week they averaged 14 reps without TMG and 21 reps with TMG...
For some reason they didn't understand, TMG had no effect when measuring bench press reps. Theorized it might be because legs are bigger muscles that store more TMG...
Also noted that pigs given TMG in their feed gain more muscle and lose fat...
Second Study which was even more interesting was that CLA + TMG taken in combination showed a highly anabolic effect on Iberian pigs, a type of pig that easily gains fat in their muscles, which they thought would be an excellent model for obese people...
Neither TMG nor CLA by itself showed much statistically, but when they were taken in combination the results were pretty drastic...
CLA appears to show its most benefits when partnered with something else, drastically increasing the effects much more than taking either CLA or its partnering item by itself. Studies have indicated that CLA + Guarana obliterates not only fat, but also destroys fat cells completely, which researchers had thought was impossible. Neither CLA nor Guarana by itself showed a strong effect, but together they showed a huge effect...
The study started with the pigs weighing 30 kg and ended when they hit 50 kg. They were then slaughtered and body composition was checked.
Study numbers are in grams/day and the results were pretty shocking to me:
Animals fed CLA+TMG gained an average of 58.7 g/day muscle and 215 g/day of water resulting in a total of 274 g/day of lean body mass compared to 238 g/day with TMG, 236 g/day with CLA and 222 g/day with nothing. The pigs receiving this mixture also put on the least fat(138 g/day) of any of the groups, with the pigs taking nothing putting on 155 g/day of fat.
So to put in perspective, the pigs taking CLA+TMG gained the most weight per day(424 g/day), the most muscle per day, the least fat per day and by far the most lean bodymass per day.
Sounds like this is a combination worth looking into since I have a whole bottle of TMG and a whole bottle of CLA sitting on my shelves collecting dust right now...
Dosage was 1% CLA and 0.5% TMG
**Added Bonus, TMG converts to SAM-e in the body, which is an activated form of methionine and helps assist in the breakdown of estrogen and also helps with joint pain!!
Rob, what do you think about this---something worth trying out, and if so, what would be the optimal dosage?
Dinoii, a bodybuilding MD from LeanBulk Forums is a huge believer in CLA taken in high dosages...12-14 g per day for 200+ lbs
good luck with that ie not going to happen