Thanks DaCookie youre a good Bloke
There you have it, the DHEA in AN is converted to Test via exersise.
Here is a post Rob made a while back
https://bodybuildingsupplements.com/phpB ... light=dhea
Using Adaptogen N again right now. I know I keep harping on it but it really is superb.
One interesting piece of info I've come across: Longjax appears to selectively convert DHEA and other precursor hormones to testosterone. It also positively modulates SHBG to free up more of the T as free testosterone, the biologically active form.
Asian J Androl 2009; (5 SUPPL): 25-95
Nutrients and Botanicals for optimizing Men's Health.
Examining the evidence for Erycomalongfolia jack, the Malaysian Ginseng in men's health
Early human trials on eurycoma longifolia: the land markstudies on human testicular cells incubated with standardizedwater-soluble extract of Eurycoma longifolia and with controlpregnenolone incubated with the same herb showed the herbpotentiate steroidogenesis in the testicular cells with 4 timesincrease level of testosterone and testosterone precursors. Therewas no increase in Dehydrotestosterone which is associatedwith cancer of prostate. In a double blind, placebo controlledstudy conducted in 2000 by Dr Sareena from the Department ofSport Science at the University of Malaya, provided 14 healthyadult males with either 100 mg day"1 of the Standardized extractor placebo for 8 weeks. Both groups performed an intensivestrength-training program for 8 weeks. The group on theStandardized extract showed improved body mass index as wellas muscle strength. In a non comparative non placebo controlledstudy conducted in 2001 by Dr Ismail Tambi at the ReproductiveResearch Center in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, where 30 marriedmen, aged 31-52 years old, took 200 mg of the standardizedextract regularly for three consecutive weeks. Interviewsindicated that 73% felt healthy, active and energized, 82improved psychological wellbeing and 62% felt increased sexualdesire. The subjects showed an increased free testosterone index.Increased testosterone levels help improve libido, energy andmuscle mass for bodybuilding. Their levels of DHEA, anothercritical steroid hormone, gradually increased from 26% after oneweek to 47% after three weeks.Extended clinical trials: a double-blind placebo controlledhuman clinical trial conducted in 2004 by Dr.Ismail Tambi where20 male volunteers of various health conditions from the ages of38 to 58 randomly given 200, 400, or 600 mg of the standardizedextract or placebo for 2 months showed elevated SHIM scoresshowing improvement in sexual desire and performance aswell as improved AMS score showing improvement in sexual,physical, psychology, and vasomotor domains for majority ofthe volunteers. Testosterone and DHEAS levels showed highnormal levels when compared to baseline. Diabetic volunteersshowed an improved level of blood glucose. The Cortisol levelswere fluctuating suggesting the extract modulates the release ofCortisol. The majority of volunteers have high normal levels
Conclusion: standardized water-soluble extract of Eurycoma longifolia jack, the Malaysian Ginseng has undergone numerous clinical trials and evaluations locally and internationally and has been found to be a beneficial botanical optimizing men's health. The standardized extract has been patented as a supplement for men's health specifically in enhancing testosterone and improving male fertility of idiopathic causes. The extract has been found to be non-toxic even at a high dose of 600mg to the body functions. Extended studies on the same extract has proven the herb to be an energizer, an aphrodisiac, an ergogenic botanical which also facilitate muscle fatigue recovery and anti-stress. It is a potent adaptogen as well. Overall effects on the various hormones are also positive. It enhanced total testosterone and DHEA (Dehydroepiandrosterone) which also modulate testosterone levels, ensuring enough free testosterone for the body's need. It's other adaptogenic effects include positive effect on body cortisol levels as well as on growth hormone as it modulates the release of IGF-1. With all these ample scientific and clinical findings, Standardized patented water-soluble extract of Erycoma lonfolia, the Malaysian Ginseng has emerged as a potent botanical supplement im men's health.
