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Agmatine
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:09 pm
by DaCookie
Hey Rob/Mass whats your opinion on this one?Its in the actual supp called the blueprint.
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:14 pm
by RobRegish
Interesting compound and for the record, I really like MAN/Joey.
However, when he stated the following YEARS ago upon it's introduction - I think he really erred:
"At the risk of sounding like Bill Phillips when he compared the branched chain amino acid, Leucine-metabolite, HMB (B-hydroxy B-methylbutyrate) to the anabolic steroid known as Deca, I am putting my name and street cred on the line by dubbing Agmatine "The Holy Grail of Supplements".
Do I think it has value?
YES
Do I think the test of time has revealed it to be "The Holy Grail".
Ummmm... NO
Nevertheless like I said, you could do far worse.... like send your $ to "Muscle-Tekk". Good grief... Interesting question nonetheless Cookie man.
You're a good thinker
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:46 pm
by DaCookie
Ha ye im a good thinker supp wise, I believe I was the first to tell you arachidonic acid has merit
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:25 pm
by RobRegish
DaCookie wrote:Ha ye im a good thinker supp wise, I believe I was the first to tell you arachidonic acid has merit
Ha ha... not quite.
HOWEVER... you may have been the first to cause me to re-think it. If so, I profoundly thank you - depending upon who I am today.
Rob's grateful anyway. From the bottom of my heart Daniel... I love ya' man...
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:53 am
by Big.jazayrli
RobRegish wrote:DaCookie wrote:Ha ye im a good thinker supp wise, I believe I was the first to tell you arachidonic acid has merit
Ha ha... not quite.
HOWEVER... you may have been the first to cause me to re-think it. If so, I profoundly thank you - depending upon who I am today.
Rob's grateful anyway. From the bottom of my heart Daniel... I love ya' man...
On this note.. i have two bottles of X-factor Advanced awaiting my next evil plot
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:47 pm
by DaCookie
RobRegish wrote:DaCookie wrote:Ha ye im a good thinker supp wise, I believe I was the first to tell you arachidonic acid has merit
Ha ha... not quite.
HOWEVER... you may have been the first to cause me to re-think it. If so, I profoundly thank you - depending upon who I am today.
Rob's grateful anyway. From the bottom of my heart Daniel... I love ya' man...
Yeh thats what I meant, to re-think it.
Love you too bro
@Bigjay, I have 2 bottles aswell waiting for me, how you dosing it?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:46 pm
by Big.jazayrli
DaCookie wrote:
@Bigjay, I have 2 bottles aswell waiting for me, how you dosing it?
Oh i'm not even sure yet
I have lots of stuff sitting on my shelf waiting to be used
what I'm really waiting for is the new bioforge V3.. gonna hopefully use that in the 8 weeks pre-meet, but we shall see how the timing goes
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:30 pm
by Hank!
I idea what theHuge has planned for v3 ? DAA perhaps?
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:50 pm
by Big.jazayrli
Hank! wrote:I idea what theHuge has planned for v3 ? DAA perhaps?
he just released the final ingredient list (no doses yet though)
-primaVie Shilajit (powerful adaptogen)
-sensoril ashwagandha
-Vitamin D3
-tongkat Ali
-Optizinc
I'm very interested to try out the new formula
edit: I think there may be one more ingredient that isn't listed yet
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:30 pm
by Hank!
So he is totally moved away from Forskoli?
I guess all three versions are designed for different goals or are stackable?
He designed another supp for Diabolic with Daa i believe.
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:38 pm
by Big.jazayrli
Hank! wrote:So he is totally moved away from Forskoli?
I guess all three versions are designed for different goals or are stackable?
He designed another supp for Diabolic with Daa i believe.
I believe he moved away from the forskolin due to GI distress issues in some
original bioforge as well as proMAX will no longer be available..
the new one will apparently blow them out of the water in every way
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:34 pm
by DaCookie
Big.jazayrli wrote:Hank! wrote:I idea what theHuge has planned for v3 ? DAA perhaps?
he just released the final ingredient list (no doses yet though)
-primaVie Shilajit (powerful adaptogen)
-sensoril ashwagandha
-Vitamin D3
-tongkat Ali
-Optizinc
I'm very interested to try out the new formula
edit: I think there may be one more ingredient that isn't listed yet
Whatever thehuge puts out will be quality thats for sure.And as far as im concerned if he says it will blow v1, v2 out of the water then it will.
While im looking forward to the primavie shilajit, the rest I already use sometimes or have used.Vit D3, ashwagandha in e-bol(I havent really decided yet which I prefer, e-bol or kre-anabolyn, I think the difference is marginal anyway), tongkat in adaptogen n, zinc in multi(Yeh I know its the crappy kind but is there really a huge difference?)
If he put legit trib in there on par with adaptogen n(45% saponins) then I would swap it out for v3 probably.I dont like the prop blend in adaptogen n.
While there is the option to stack with tribosten, I dont think the trib dose is high enough and it is 20% Protodioscin.I think its a case of 45% vrs 20%, if not please correct me.So I am not aware of a better legit trib product besides adaptogen n.