Hi I just bought The Blueprint yesterday and still making my way through the pdf. However i do have a question about Adaptagen N. I am in the military and i see that Adaptagen N has DHEA in it. DHEA is banned in Australia and therefore i cannot take it as the military do random drug tests which could show this up.
Is there an alternative supplement to Adaptagen N that I could take that is legal in Australia... most supplements that are available from nolinksplease.com are legal in Oz.
Thanks
Dave
Adaptagen N Alternative???
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Big.jazayrli
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Big.jazayrli
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You know, that's really a shame..
I understand your quandry though, and would agree with most of these alternatives. The smidgeon that's in there... it'd be interesting to find out what the level is they test for. It's there for a reason and not without thought as I state above.
Here in the states, they have a "steroid ABUSE home test kit" in the drugstores to "keep your kids safe from steroids". Yes, there's such a thing. Pathetic IMO.
https://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/catalog/shop_ ... navCount=3
Why? Couple of reasons: You need only read what they test for and pick one they don't. How stupid is this? The kids aren't dumb. Second DHEA, Testosterone and Epitestosterone are naturally occurring. Clenbuterol isn't even a steroid but its included. I could go on and on..
What's GOOD about these tests is that they test your testosterone to epitestosterone and DHEA levels.
"Steroidconfirm tests for eleven anabolic agents, five of their metabolites and one adrenergic agonist that are commonly abused":
Tetrahydrogestrinone (THG),
Boldenone (Equipoise),
Hydroxyboldenone (metabolite),
Clostebol (Steranobol),
Clenbuterol,
Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA),
Testosterone, Epitestosterone,
Oxymesterone (Oranabol),
Oxandrolone (Anavar), Methyloxandrolone (metabolite),
Stanozolol (Winstrol), Hydroxystanozolol (metabolite),
Flouxymesterone (Halotestin),
6-B Hydroxyflouxymesterone (metabolite),
Androsterone.
Excuse me, but there's a line between elevating your levels OPTIMAL and ABUSE. Anyone want to debate this? Can you tell I'm upset?
I would encourage you to use these tests as tools then to OPTIMIZE your DHEA, test booster etc. product of choice and ensure you don't raise any red flags.
And I'm betting that two caps of Adaptogen N/night isn't going to flag you. Speculation on my part but it would go a LONG way toward helping us understand just how much is "too much" in the eyes of your sporting organization.
You have the RIGHT to know what they test for, how much is too much and where they draw the line. You have the RIGHT as a consumer/athlete to use supplementation, etc to OPTIMIZE your hormonal profile but not disrupt the playing field.
End of rant..
I understand your quandry though, and would agree with most of these alternatives. The smidgeon that's in there... it'd be interesting to find out what the level is they test for. It's there for a reason and not without thought as I state above.
Here in the states, they have a "steroid ABUSE home test kit" in the drugstores to "keep your kids safe from steroids". Yes, there's such a thing. Pathetic IMO.
https://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/catalog/shop_ ... navCount=3
Why? Couple of reasons: You need only read what they test for and pick one they don't. How stupid is this? The kids aren't dumb. Second DHEA, Testosterone and Epitestosterone are naturally occurring. Clenbuterol isn't even a steroid but its included. I could go on and on..
What's GOOD about these tests is that they test your testosterone to epitestosterone and DHEA levels.
"Steroidconfirm tests for eleven anabolic agents, five of their metabolites and one adrenergic agonist that are commonly abused":
Tetrahydrogestrinone (THG),
Boldenone (Equipoise),
Hydroxyboldenone (metabolite),
Clostebol (Steranobol),
Clenbuterol,
Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA),
Testosterone, Epitestosterone,
Oxymesterone (Oranabol),
Oxandrolone (Anavar), Methyloxandrolone (metabolite),
Stanozolol (Winstrol), Hydroxystanozolol (metabolite),
Flouxymesterone (Halotestin),
6-B Hydroxyflouxymesterone (metabolite),
Androsterone.
Excuse me, but there's a line between elevating your levels OPTIMAL and ABUSE. Anyone want to debate this? Can you tell I'm upset?
I would encourage you to use these tests as tools then to OPTIMIZE your DHEA, test booster etc. product of choice and ensure you don't raise any red flags.
And I'm betting that two caps of Adaptogen N/night isn't going to flag you. Speculation on my part but it would go a LONG way toward helping us understand just how much is "too much" in the eyes of your sporting organization.
You have the RIGHT to know what they test for, how much is too much and where they draw the line. You have the RIGHT as a consumer/athlete to use supplementation, etc to OPTIMIZE your hormonal profile but not disrupt the playing field.
End of rant..
Not to hijack the thread or anything, but I have a question about Adaptagen N and sleep. I don't always get to have a full 8 hours of sleep because of my work schedule. Sometimes I will only get about 4 hours of sleep. On the nights when I know I won't be able to sleep at least 8 hours should I skip out on Adaptagen N? I still have a bottle of Bioforge Pro Max if that would be a decent alternative on days I can't sleep enough.
I wouldn't. If you'd like another alternative, look no further than GammaGH!
https://bodybuildingsupplements.com/phpB ... .php?t=505
https://bodybuildingsupplements.com/phpB ... .php?t=505
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warriorcookie
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I don't know if this would apply, but it's worth a thought...
askmass wrote:It can not be implemented by just anyone, but for some can be easily done.Hank! wrote:Cliffs?askmass wrote:The only way you could effectively double up on Adaptogen N would be with a split/dual sleep regimen.
It's been done...
It is largely dependent on ones work/school schedule and freedom thereof to stage sleep periods.
It came about with a customer who thought of a way to turn a negative into a positive. He was stuck in a 2 job situation where he could only sleep about 4 hours between the two jobs for days on end and his workouts/recovery were suffering.
The idea/solution was to effectively stage two Adaptogen N doses before each 4 hours of sleep daily (2x2-3).
It worked very well for him.
Not a tip I've thought to pass along in a long time, but it can and does work very well in certain situations.
Careful with this, though. It seems likely that that small of an amount would not show up, but I can't claim to have much experience with it. What I do have a couple of years of experience with are THC home testing kits, and those are not nearly as effective as "real" tests. Not just because they can be cheated more easily, but I can pass a home test sometimes in a THIRD of the time it would take to pass a regular test. Only bringing this up because it would suck for someone to test out the home kit and think that they're ok, only to realize when they get busted that the kit was too cheap to detect what a military-standard test would. Food for thought!RobRegish wrote:You know, that's really a shame..
it'd be interesting to find out what the level is they test for. It's there for a reason and not without thought as I state above.
Here in the states, they have a "steroid ABUSE home test kit" in the drugstores to "keep your kids safe from steroids".
While I have not tried bulk d-aspartic acid, im still going to comment on this.While the bulk stuff does work a lot of people trying it still say they feel nothing.Big.jazayrli wrote:didn't think about testforceHank! wrote:Dont forget
Testforce
or a simple high protein high fat diet
anecdotally i have heard from people though tthat bulk d-aspartic acid is just as effective
Try 2 servings a day of testforce v2 and trust me you will definitely feel it, especially your libido.I believe I told hank to do that and from what I can remember he liked it I think.