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I don't think you're doing anything wrong. All other subjective measures look good. Don't sweat it..

Do take care to proceed with caution on the final workout/all of famine really. You'll likely have to use VERY light weights to make it through. If you at all feel sick/quesy or OFF, etc - discontinue.

I value your health a whole lot more than your gains. You should too...

Day 5 Famine;

Weight 161 (- 4.5 lb)
Heartrate 62 bpm (+3 BPM)

I will be doing the workout later tonight, since I have to work this afternoon, so I will update again tonight.

Questions for feast;

1. I am going to follow the calorie spiral method mentioned in the book beginning with days 1-3 at 20 x bodyweight calories. Is this ok Rob? I have seen you suggest alternate methods to some.

2. Liver tabs....You mention 6 every hour with 12 oz water for 5 days. Is this too much at my weight? Not sure if it matters or not.

3. EBOL....directions say take 2 caps 3x a day. Does timing matter? With main meals? What about workout days?

Thanks!!

Weird.....question 3 should say E b o l. Some reason it changed to ecdy?

One more question. On the workout tonight, I know I do 5 sets. Does that mean add 2 more exercises to biceps since there were only 3 Monday?

Yes sir, correct on the biceps question..

On the Ebol to ecdy switch, AskMass had to insert a filter where Ebol now = Ecdy. It seems the board was turning into and Ebol/tbol trib one with some posts bordering on advertising for the products. A lot to keep on top of as he's running MASS and not on here all day to monitor. Thermolife however, will not be censored/filtered.

I hope you understand. Just use your judgement. I don't go mentioning The Blueprint Mass Stack/KreAnabolyn on Thermo's board because I'm respectful of who's board it is. BOTH products are quality and made by quality companies. I prefer Kre-Anabolyn, you may not. Personal preference..

And for the record, I've always stated the following: You should try BOTH products to see what works best for YOU!! I take no favor as I have no vested interest.

I hope you understand...

Thanks, I figured it had something to do with that. I am open to trying the other next round to compare.

Also during feast
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1. I am going to follow the calorie spiral method mentioned in the book beginning with days 1-3 at 20 x bodyweight calories. Is this ok Rob? I have seen you suggest alternate methods to some.

A. Yes, that's fine. You might consider this variation.

First 10 days - BW x 20
Next 10 days - BW x 18
Next 10 days - BW x 15
Finish Feast - BW x 12-13

That preserves the body's down regulation to over-feeding.... meaning you won't lay down as much fat vs. a BW x 20 straight through approach. You can get more aggressive lowering the calories if you see too much fat creeping on.

2. Liver tabs....You mention 6 every hour with 12 oz water for 5 days. Is this too much at my weight? Not sure if it matters or not.

A. You know it might be. Try 6 every 2 hours. That'll spread things out enough and lower the overall total but still ensure high levels of circulating nutrients/aminos etc.. The original was Vince Gironda's recommendation and worked well for most..

Thanks for the replies above Rob!!

Wow what a workout!

Squats 100 x 12 x 5
DB Rows 40 x 12 x 5
BB Curls 65 x 12
Incline DB Curls 20 x 12
Preacher Curls 60 x 11
DB Hammer Curls 20 x 12
DB Alternate Curls 20 x 12

I am glad famine is done with. All in all it wasn't that bad. I consumed 1300 calories a day with around 40g protein. I made sure to space out snacks so that I was eating every few hours. I think that helped alot with the hunger. I was still hungry most of the time, but it was bearable.

Now its time to Feast!! I cannot wait to gain my strength back and to eat!

Not sure if it's just a local restaraunt, but my lunch tomorrow will be a Chipotle burrito. Its a mexican burrito filled with chicken, rice, cheese and hot sauce or whatever else you want put on it. Huge burrito, loaded with 1000 calories. I eat these very few and far between, but tomorrow is a special ocassion!

I will make a post tomorrow on some of my goals for feast.

Fantastic. And nice work on making it through!

Now, it's time for the BIG rewards..

Feast Day 1

Weight 161

Ahhh had a nice big breakfast this morning; 6 egg whites, 2 pieces of toast, milk, oj, fruit bowl. It was good to eat again.

Started my Ecdy product this morning, along with Bev's liver tabs. Will mix up a BCAA (xtend) shake this afternoon.

Yeah, it DOES feel good doesn't it?

This is the body "speaking" to you again. And you are listening

Day 2

Weight 162.5 (+1.5)

Eating is good, feeling great. Took in 3100 calories yesterday, with 253 protein. Had a bit of trouble trying to get in the calories, but it's nice to know it doesn't all have to be clean in the beginning.

BW is coming up nicely. This is good..

Day 3 Feast

Weight 164.5 (+3.5lb)

Wow, yes weight is coming up nicely. I am sure this is a combo of the liver tabs, water intake and high cal diet. Tomorrow is the first workout!! I can't wait.

Nice work!