Glycobol?

doolee · Post by **doolee** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:23 am

Special on it approaching, and was wondering Rob and John's take on the product. Similar to KA (ingredients not sure about quality), and from a decent company IMHO.

Na-R-ALA 250mg
Glycobol Complex™ 750mg
Trigonella Seed Isolate (Standardized To 10% 4-Hydroxyisoleucine), Phellodendron Extract (Standardized To 90% Berberine), Cinnamon Bark 20:1 Extract (Standardized For 16% Flavonoids), BMOV (Bis-Malto-Oxovanadium)

I recognize the 4hydroxy which I loved in KA, and the Cinnamon Bark. Currently dieting if that makes a difference.
Is this supposed to increase Glycerol/glycogen synthesis/storage? Was surprised that the product wasn't actually a GMS/glycerol type product.

Street-dreams · Post by **Street-dreams** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:35 am

increases protein synthesis...
is supposed to shuttle nutrients into muscle instead of fat.
tried it once.. good product.

bigpelo · Post by **bigpelo** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:11 am

I don't see an adaptogen nor creatine to compare to kre-anabolyn. Must be cheaper than...

Street-dreams · Post by **Street-dreams** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:43 pm

yea there is no creatine or adaptagen..

DaCookie · Post by **DaCookie** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:03 pm

No adaptagen kinda throws it out the window for comparison...so imo no point to compare

Street-dreams · Post by **Street-dreams** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:14 pm

Yea definitly not an apples to apples comparison...

Id break Kreanabolyn down into 4 products or 4 parts essentially..

Creatine: kreaalk
Nutrient partioner: 4-hydoxy
ecdy: RCE

and ldopa..

so I think he was comparing the nutrient partitioner part of the supps..
but if that was the case.. glycobol is a better nutrient partitioner seeing as tho that is the products focus..

DaCookie · Post by **DaCookie** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:30 pm

Street-dreams wrote:Yea definitly not an apples to apples comparison...

Id break Kreanabolyn down into 4 products or 4 parts essentially..

Creatine: kreaalk
Nutrient partioner: 4-hydoxy
ecdy: RCE

and ldopa..

so I think he was comparing the nutrient partitioner part of the supps..
but if that was the case.. glycobol is a better nutrient partitioner seeing as tho that is the products focus..

Doesnt follow always

Street-dreams · Post by **Street-dreams** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:04 pm

In this case it does.. considering that Glycobol contains the same ingredient as Glycobol but Glycobol ALSO has Na-R-ALA which is actually the main ingredient and a proven Nutrient partitioner.

beefcake66 · Post by **beefcake66** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:07 pm

for those who care I think something like glycobol is on sale on whey cheap tomorrow..................

Hank! · Post by **Hank!** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:26 pm

good discussion here, wish i understood more about these compounds

How do partitioner work? Is it related to insulin or mimicking insulin response at a given time?

Street-dreams · Post by **Street-dreams** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:48 pm

It is actually advertised as being an insulin mimetic

here is the part of the writeup discussing the main ingrediant

Sodium R-Lipoate (Na-r-ALA)
ALA is naturally produced in the body as a mitochondrial enzyme cofactor. It is important to aerobic metabolism. ALA has been suggested to increase cellular uptake of glucose to cell membranes by recruiting the glucose transporter GLUT4.* ALA improves skeletal muscle glucose transport, resulting in desirable blood glucose disposal and increased muscle glycogen concentrations.* (1) Studies also suggest that in muscle, ALA is a potent anti-oxidant which protects cells from oxidative stress-induced insulin resistance.* (2) The ALA used in this formula is chemically stabilized and of high quality.* It's one of the most active isomers and one of the highest efficiency salts commercially available.* ALA is an invaluable addition that offers a multitude of benefits plus countless extras for any serious athlete.*

Big.jazayrli · Post by **Big.jazayrli** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:48 pm

beefcake66 wrote:for those who care I think something like glycobol is on sale on whey cheap tomorrow..................

today, actually.

doolee · Post by **doolee** » Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:58 pm

Funny enough, I woke up at eight, went to class, and it was sold out by the time I got back to the dorm. I feel defeated.

DaCookie · Post by **DaCookie** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:07 pm

Street-dreams wrote:In this case it does.. considering that Glycobol contains the same ingredient as Glycobol but Glycobol ALSO has Na-R-ALA which is actually the main ingredient and a proven Nutrient partitioner.

Doesnt always follow man.While I havent read up on this and how it works, how much it varies etc it still doesnt always follow.

You know the way ecdy doesnt = ecdy, could be like that...you get what I mean?