That's the thing about Burn It Up!... sneaky performance enhancer. You'll see what I mean when you run out!
Love that stuff. Especially good for reading/writing too!
Just another first run thread - by BigPelo
Rob, I know you are a "pure karbolyn" fan and I am a waxy maize user for 2 years at least. I find WM superior to dextrose or maltodextrine post workout mix with protein. I looked at pure karbolyn but getting this to Canada is not a cost friendly option. So, I would like to have your thought on the difference between the two and also on this product I could have for reasonable price by a Canadian distributor:
https://www.genr8speed.com/physique/vitargo.php
https://www.genr8speed.com/physique/vitargo.php
Vitargo is top of the line. In my mind, it goes like this:
1. Vitargo (pricey, yet has the most research behind it)
2. Pure Karbolyn (best results/pricepoint and NOT far behind, if at all!)
3. Kwik Karb
4. Waxy Maize (somewhat distant fourth)
5. Dextrose (VERY distant fifth!)
If you can get Vitargo at a good price.... go for it!
1. Vitargo (pricey, yet has the most research behind it)
2. Pure Karbolyn (best results/pricepoint and NOT far behind, if at all!)
3. Kwik Karb
4. Waxy Maize (somewhat distant fourth)
5. Dextrose (VERY distant fifth!)
If you can get Vitargo at a good price.... go for it!
Did some research on pure karbolyn and found it a reasonable price on web. After shipping and conversion of US$ to CAD$ there is like a CAN$5 difference in favor of pure karbolyn per 4.4lbs. I will wait my custom program from Rob and then decide if I go with Vitargo or karbolyn. MASS should have a carb product 
Yesterday was cruise workout #4. It feels like I am doing pretty good. Weight in at 248 lbs!
I feel strong and pumped. Gotta watch my carbs intake though because is not really looking like a carbs cycling these past 2-3 days...
Question is: can I continue on my cruise workouts until my next run mid January?
Yesterday was cruise workout #4. It feels like I am doing pretty good. Weight in at 248 lbs!
I feel strong and pumped. Gotta watch my carbs intake though because is not really looking like a carbs cycling these past 2-3 days...Question is: can I continue on my cruise workouts until my next run mid January?
Hi Rob
I was looking at my waxy maize tub yesterday night and I noticed it was a polymerized cross-linked amylopectin. So I would like to have your thought on this product:
https://www.allmaxnutrition.com/443-Waxy ... 2000g.aspx
Compare to vitargo and karbolyn.
Thank you!
I was looking at my waxy maize tub yesterday night and I noticed it was a polymerized cross-linked amylopectin. So I would like to have your thought on this product:
https://www.allmaxnutrition.com/443-Waxy ... 2000g.aspx
Compare to vitargo and karbolyn.
Thank you!
Ad copy states "AW2300 has a molecular weight over 3000 times greater than dextrose!"
Dextrose MW = 180.16
So its in the neighborhood of 540,000
Vitargo, a "high molecular weight carbohydrate", has a molecular weight of around 500,000 to 700,000.
Pure Karbolyns ad copy doesn't come out and state it, but likely similar #'s as Vitargo but blended from potato, rice and corn to release at a specific rate.
What do all these #'s mean? Not much unless you have a glucometer. I do and have used it on all of these except for this stuff you linked to, so I can't speak to it. Here's how it goes:
- Dextrose shoots insulin sky high which is good but you crash hard, bloat etc and there are a LOT of downsides. Too many IMO
- Waxy Maize/cornstarch is the next step up the ladder. No worse than dextrose at what it does and a LOT better than crashing and no bloat
- Vitargo is LIKELY the best but not by much, IMO. Too expensive though, given the small advantage it MAY convey.
- Pure Karbolyn strikes the best balance between efficacy, price and all around value.
My $0.02...
Dextrose MW = 180.16
So its in the neighborhood of 540,000
Vitargo, a "high molecular weight carbohydrate", has a molecular weight of around 500,000 to 700,000.
Pure Karbolyns ad copy doesn't come out and state it, but likely similar #'s as Vitargo but blended from potato, rice and corn to release at a specific rate.
What do all these #'s mean? Not much unless you have a glucometer. I do and have used it on all of these except for this stuff you linked to, so I can't speak to it. Here's how it goes:
- Dextrose shoots insulin sky high which is good but you crash hard, bloat etc and there are a LOT of downsides. Too many IMO
- Waxy Maize/cornstarch is the next step up the ladder. No worse than dextrose at what it does and a LOT better than crashing and no bloat
- Vitargo is LIKELY the best but not by much, IMO. Too expensive though, given the small advantage it MAY convey.
- Pure Karbolyn strikes the best balance between efficacy, price and all around value.
My $0.02...
I ended up cruise on December 28th at 249 lbs. So + 2 since beginning of this run. Not much, if any, gains in mass and strength. I did a lot of mistakes during this first "learning" run and I did not use any adaptagens.
Then, on December 30th, I had a very bad gastroenteritis that unable me to eat for a full day and not much for the next 2-3. Ended up losing 8 lbs
Anyway, next run will be much more different as Rob design me a custom "lean bulker" program. This program is somewhere between a recomp and a pure bulk. I will start another log soon as I am already in my preparation week. I will try to make the next log more informative and up to date with daily or every other day post.
See you soon!
/thread
Then, on December 30th, I had a very bad gastroenteritis that unable me to eat for a full day and not much for the next 2-3. Ended up losing 8 lbs
Anyway, next run will be much more different as Rob design me a custom "lean bulker" program. This program is somewhere between a recomp and a pure bulk. I will start another log soon as I am already in my preparation week. I will try to make the next log more informative and up to date with daily or every other day post.
See you soon!
/thread